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Extremely very confined engine bay lengthwise. yeah, had currently figured that out ... it was a tongue in cheek article, that I really did not explain ... my bad In reply to spitfirebill: I included that point due to the fact that when I needed to find a replacement 4.9 for my F150, I had to go with each in every junkyard in South Jersey to find one that wasn't sludged up actually severely.
Bernie: Which is a much better van, while we're going to chat concerning a couple of issues of these vans, but I I'm plainly not going to come out and say one is much better than the other. Bernie: Well, they're basically the same car.
Mark: So, well, allow's begin with engines after that. Allow's chat regarding engine and actually just to define that the model years, we're going to start from 2000 and up, you know, I suggest, these vans have actually been around for a long time.
And, you know, for a version of a Chevy van has actually been around because, you know, around that time also. Given that 2000, I imply, Ford's, you can get these with V6 engines or V8s.
There's a great deal of problems with these engines. In the earlier 2000 trigger plugs with blow to these engines, due to the fact that they really did not have sufficient threading in the spark plug, which caused issues.
So if you're buying anything from possibly 08 and newer, you're not mosting likely to have that sort of ignition system issues. Other locations though, with the Fords that we see, intake manifolds will leakage, they'll establish coolant leakages. It's a plastic manifold typically you have to change the entire point.
And there's some issues, the Ford engine I have to say in their favour, because I'm talking concerning troubles, it's a much more innovative engine. Overhead cam, so you're getting more power and efficiency out of the engine than you would certainly on a Chevy, which is an easier design with press rods.
They're simply actually quite excellent, long lasting, strong engines. You understand, being a van, certainly, you understand, doing any kind of solution on them is extra challenging due to the fact that you've reached remove that cover and get involved in maintenance in odd methods. Points like spark plugs last a terrible lengthy time, so they don't need to be replaced really often.
Mark: Can you purchase these vans with diesel engines? The Fords have had diesels in them for a lengthy time, like method back prior to the 2000 model year.
So, you recognize, that's still readily available. I would certainly not suggest a diesel unless you're hauling incredibly hefty loads. Diesels require to be functioned. That's really the bottom line with a diesel. If you're a say, I do not recognize, I'm just going to say a plumbing and you have actually obtained like a great deal of heavyweight inside your van and you're towing a trailer behind it, that would certainly be a truly great usage of having a diesel powered van.
In all justness, it feels like the diesels are, they appear to have less troubles in vans than they do in the trucks. Probably because they aren't worked so hard, yet when things take place, they're really costly to deal with. We have actually got a great deal of videos and details concerning diesels, specifically the Fords.
So you truly require to assume two times about obtaining a diesel in a van. That's my suggestion. Mark: Yeah, so suitable for purpose, make certain that you're fitting the engine that you're acquiring for the objective that you're endeavouring to meet. Bernie: Yeah, precisely. And I will certainly state, Chevy is basically restricted to V8 engines, yet Ford has a V 10 engine also, which is a monstrous gas wolfing engine.
Yet if you're, and once more, we're just speaking about type of a right, normal freight van below. The diesel definitely isn't the best alternative. Consider your objective, your usage, just how much weight you're hauling and that'll assist you make the choice. Mark: What regarding the transmission et cetera of the drive train? Bernie: They're basically equivalent.
Something that we haven't talked about right here is what kind of van. These vans are, and it relies on what design, they're offered ever from half lot to one load chassis and actually several of the cutaway vans are actually even a lot more resilient, like, you know, 450s and 550s for claim the Fords.
Yet usually the drive trains, you know, I locate them to be virtually equivalent. Mark: So let's discuss guiding and suspension. Just how do they contrast? Bernie: You recognize, I'm mosting likely to offer the side to Ford on this. And the reason for Ford is that it's a little easier.
There's less guiding affiliation involved in a Chevy. Do Chevy's, yet it appears, and the Chevy's probably last a little bit longer than the Fords, yet the, you understand, the steering affiliation is much less complicated, so there's less parts and much less items to put on out.
The trip in a Ford is probably a little extra vehicle like yet I don't recognize if you 'd really ever before really noticed a difference in between the 2. It appears like their components are a little tougher on the Ford than the Chevy. Mark: What concerning brakes? Bernie: Brakes are pretty much the very same, but I will state that it looks like with Fords, the means they develop their brake calipers, that they have a tendency to need to be changed virtually whenever you do a brake work.
Somehow, they seem to last for one brake work. And after that a whole lot of times we take the brakes off and state, Oh, the dirt boots torn, therefore the caliper requires to be replaced. I think on a Ford and you can expect to spend a bit more cash on brakes and you can on a Chevy.
And I can, I'm going to swerve back before the 2000 model years, there were some Chevy vans that had truly negative doors. I imply, the sliding doors were crap, you understand, truly badly developed. In fact, I would certainly say that if you are even considering something older, it looks like Chevy and GMC vans truly and their vehicles in general truly took a jump ahead in quality around the 2000 design year, because there was a great deal of stuff where the brakes for circumstances would not last long in any way.
If we're looking at the 2000 newer, I mean, I 'd say they're both probably pretty much matching in high quality, fit and coating, you understand, some of the guest vans, of course we'll have better visits than the cargo vans. But I can't say that of them attracts attention to me a little more than the other.
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